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When Carlos Ghosn’s philosophy of 'leaders are groomed' intrigued Satya Nadella

Renault-Nissan-Mitsubishi Alliance Chairman shares with Microsoft CEO what he believes are qualities of a good leader.

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Last Updated: Jul 30, 2018, 08.06 AM IST|Original: Jul 30, 2018, 08.06 AM IST
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Satya Nadella and Carlos Ghosn
Satya Nadella (left) and Carlos Ghosn
When one of the biggest names in tech sits down to interview a top boss from the auto industry, the conversation is bound to have some words of wisdom.

The person donning the interviewer’s hat here was Satya Nadella and the interviewee, Carlos Ghosn, chairman, Renault-Nissan-Mitsubishi Alliance, who was recently on a visit to Microsoft’s headquarter in Redmond, Washington.

Makings of a leader
While some believe leaders are born, what intrigued Nadella was Ghosn’s philosophy that leaders are groomed.


Elaborating on this, Ghosn said that having gone through many generations of managements and leadership, it is possible to develop all the attributes that you want in someone. Of course, the person has to be motivated and driven.

“I believe you make leaders through their own experience, their own development by putting them in a situation where they are going to suffer, struggle, extend themselves and grow,” he said. “At the end of the day, if they fail, they are going to derive the lessons from the failures for the next time. And when they are successful, they are going to go for something much bigger.”

Don’t play safe
Ghosn believes the biggest challenge is that we know what kind of attributes we need for the leadership of today, but we don’t know what kind of skills one will need for the leader of tomorrow.

“When I say tomorrow, I am talking 10 or 15 years down the road,” he said.

“Our industry is in full transformation; society is in full transformation; technology and digitisation are going to bring lot of modification in the relationships inside the company. So, all of this makes us think we will have to groom leader[s], but there is still this uncertainty about other leaders we are grooming, the one we need to have 15 years down the road, or is something else going to be different? That’s why we need to groom them, [and] at the same time, keep this level of uncertainty. So, we make sure that we are not too safe in our choices,” he said.

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